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and happy new year to you, as well. >> to you, too. >>> and from chuck hagel from the supporters of chuck hagel to opponents, bing west and hagel, both of them are combat vets but that is where the similarity ends. he's going to join us on the half hour on why he is opposed to chuck hagel for defense secretary. >>> if you got your paycheck on friday and you noticed it was a little smaller, thank the expired payroll tax holiday. guess what else is coming in 2013? higher prices for just about everything on the daily menu, the menu of life. christine romans is here to tell us not only what they are but what we can do about it. start with the grocery store. >> make a list, right? you hear that all the time. your grandmother did it. things are -- prices of things are rising. starts with corns and grains. remember the drought of last summer? also global demand. corn, corn feeds in to -- you use it to feed animals, right? use it to make cereal and snack foods and corn syrup and to feed animals so meat prices likely going to be up 3% to 4%. pay more for the hamburger and already seeing people sta
and happy new year to you, as well. >> to you, too. >>> and from chuck hagel from the supporters of chuck hagel to opponents, bing west and hagel, both of them are combat vets but that is where the similarity ends. he's going to join us on the half hour on why he is opposed to chuck hagel for defense secretary. >>> if you got your paycheck on friday and you noticed it was a little smaller, thank the expired payroll tax holiday. guess what else is coming in 2013? higher...
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former republican senator chuck hagel. he's known as someone who's not afraid to chart his own course around washington. a hab about the thit that somet with political risks. here's barbara starr. >> reporter: chuck hagel's view of the world today was changed when he served with his brother tom in vietnam. hagel recalled being burned in a land mine attack. >> the pain -- and we didn't have any medics there with us. we did have some guys that were in pretty bad shape. the morphine, everything was used for them. >> the brothers saved each other's lives in combat. >> thinking to myself, if i ever get out of all this. i am going to do everything i can to assure that war is the last resort. that we -- a nation, a people calls upon to settle the dispute. the horror of it, the pain of it, the suffering of it. >> reporter: after coming home, hagel worked briefly as a newscastor. then had a career in business before entering public service as a senator from nebraska from 1997 to 2009. most recently he's taught at georgetown univers
former republican senator chuck hagel. he's known as someone who's not afraid to chart his own course around washington. a hab about the thit that somet with political risks. here's barbara starr. >> reporter: chuck hagel's view of the world today was changed when he served with his brother tom in vietnam. hagel recalled being burned in a land mine attack. >> the pain -- and we didn't have any medics there with us. we did have some guys that were in pretty bad shape. the morphine,...
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the problem with chuck hagel is not a phrase. the problem with chuck hagel is a consistent attitude. the next secretary of defense will be -- will likely to have deal with two basic types of issues at the top of the inbox. the first is managing a defense build down, if the sequester goes into effect, a very dramatic defense build down. you need someone with excellent military management experience, which chuck hagel does not have. i think you were too kind to him in the opening presentation. the second challenge will be the challenge of iran. we are probably coming to the extreme decision point where iran in the four years ahead. and chuck hagel has shown himself again and again very credulous on what you can achieve by negotiating with iran. at this point, almost everybody's eyes have been opened to the impossibility of arriving at a negotiated solution, and yet chuck hagel has insisted that such solutions are reachable with iran, hamas, and hezbollah. the question arises is he hard headed enough. is he tough minded enough? it i
the problem with chuck hagel is not a phrase. the problem with chuck hagel is a consistent attitude. the next secretary of defense will be -- will likely to have deal with two basic types of issues at the top of the inbox. the first is managing a defense build down, if the sequester goes into effect, a very dramatic defense build down. you need someone with excellent military management experience, which chuck hagel does not have. i think you were too kind to him in the opening presentation....
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it's just chuck hagel. because, again, so far outside that bipartisan foreign policy mainstream. >> all right, cornell, what does this say about the president, that he refused to back down? >> well, it says that the president -- he's leading. i mean, this certainly -- chuck hagel is someone who fits the sort of description of what the president wants to see more of in washington. just reaching across the aisle. touching republicans. you know, reaching across the aisle and saying, you know what, you don't have to play this partisan political game all the time. here is someone who has been a republican senator from a red state who agrees with me on some issues but disagrees with me on other issues. but we can work together. he's someone who has my confidence. again, like colin powell said. so a bold independent thinker. another thing, here's it is guy who can be the first enlisted man who can ever be secretary here. here's someone who gets the troops. when the president looked at what the troops are going thr
it's just chuck hagel. because, again, so far outside that bipartisan foreign policy mainstream. >> all right, cornell, what does this say about the president, that he refused to back down? >> well, it says that the president -- he's leading. i mean, this certainly -- chuck hagel is someone who fits the sort of description of what the president wants to see more of in washington. just reaching across the aisle. touching republicans. you know, reaching across the aisle and saying,...
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. >>> president obama plans to nominate chuck hagel as the next secretary of defense. reaction is already pouring in, some positive, some not. we'll have much more on the story in a moment. >>> pakistani intelligence officials say a suspected u.s. drone strike killed 17 people today. today's attack follows two suspected u.s. drone strikes last week that killed 15 people, including a taliban commander with ties to the pakistani military. demonstrators protested against drone strikes thursday and burned a u.s. flag. >>> parents in new york are on edge tonight waiting to hear if their children will have to find other ways to get to school tomorrow morning. the union representing the city's school bus drivers is threatening to strike in a dispute over job protection. they're concerned about a new bus contract that could mean some drivers would lose their jobs. if there is a walkout the city will provide some bus riders with free metro cards to ride public transit. in other cases, parents can apply for public transit refunds if they send their children to school by taxi. >>
. >>> president obama plans to nominate chuck hagel as the next secretary of defense. reaction is already pouring in, some positive, some not. we'll have much more on the story in a moment. >>> pakistani intelligence officials say a suspected u.s. drone strike killed 17 people today. today's attack follows two suspected u.s. drone strikes last week that killed 15 people, including a taliban commander with ties to the pakistani military. demonstrators protested against drone...
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hagel's friend and he said chuck hagel has the experience. he does have the experience to run a large organization, ie the department of defense. here's what he told wolf. >> he saved the uso from bankruptcy. was the president in 1989 to 1990. he's a businessman and run other large organizations very successfully. he has -- he's one of the bluntest people i know. blunt may not always be great, but he's very blunt. he's very fair. he's judicious. he's unsentimental in the sense that he doesn't let emotion get the best of him. he calculates what is i think in the best interests of the organization he's running. >> so perhaps his willingness to speak up candidly, bluntly, may not be a bad thing, so says this long time friend of the senator's. you disagree? >> i disagree only the sense i don't really understand under what circumstances he would do this. being secretary of defense means two things. it means heading a vast defense establishment and bureaucracy. something that chuck hagel has never done. also means dealing with congress and senator
hagel's friend and he said chuck hagel has the experience. he does have the experience to run a large organization, ie the department of defense. here's what he told wolf. >> he saved the uso from bankruptcy. was the president in 1989 to 1990. he's a businessman and run other large organizations very successfully. he has -- he's one of the bluntest people i know. blunt may not always be great, but he's very blunt. he's very fair. he's judicious. he's unsentimental in the sense that he...
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senator chuck hagel. in four hours, president obama is expected to name hagel as his choice for defense secretary. that nomination could be bruising. hagel is known for being fiercely independent and the loudest outcry could come from hagel's own fellow republicans. they say he's the wrong choice to oversee the military. the combat veteran, who was badly wounded in vietnam, is openly wary of armed conflict. >> the pain, and we didn't have any medics there with us, and we did have some guys, again, that i think were in pretty bad shape. the morphine and everything was used for them. >> you know, if i ever get out of all this, i am going to do everything i can to assure that war is a last resort. that we, a nation, a people, calls upon to settle a dispute. the horror of it, the pain of it, the suffering of it. >> hagel won two purple hearts for his service in vietnam. he also saved the life of his brother, who was fighting alongside him. hagel has also long called for cuts in defense spending. national corr
senator chuck hagel. in four hours, president obama is expected to name hagel as his choice for defense secretary. that nomination could be bruising. hagel is known for being fiercely independent and the loudest outcry could come from hagel's own fellow republicans. they say he's the wrong choice to oversee the military. the combat veteran, who was badly wounded in vietnam, is openly wary of armed conflict. >> the pain, and we didn't have any medics there with us, and we did have some...
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what do you think of chuck hagel? >> i said it earlier in the break, if he's upset the left and the right, perhaps he's doing something right. for me, i think the confirmation process is going to be very important. i think that his stance on iran and israel needs to be flushed out. to me, even as a moderate republican, he's still perhaps a little bit too much of an appeaser and doesn't make us stronger or weaker. i this i it's going to be a very spirited confirmation process. i think it's going to be great theater. there's no doubt about that. but in the end, i think he's going to get it. >> explain to me why mitch mcconnell, who not long ago was saying hagel is one of the premier foreign policy voices and one of the giants in the united states senate. he stands with him philosophically 90% of the time. he's an indispensable member of the republican team. that was then. now he says, he'll be given a fair hearing, and you have john mccain saying, to allege that hagel is somehow a republican, that's a hard one to swallo
what do you think of chuck hagel? >> i said it earlier in the break, if he's upset the left and the right, perhaps he's doing something right. for me, i think the confirmation process is going to be very important. i think that his stance on iran and israel needs to be flushed out. to me, even as a moderate republican, he's still perhaps a little bit too much of an appeaser and doesn't make us stronger or weaker. i this i it's going to be a very spirited confirmation process. i think it's...
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. >> who is the real chuck hagel? a guy who at one point 14 years ago said a diplomat was aggressively gay and that made him unfit to be ambassador to luxembourg. the guy who talked about the jewish lobby and he really meant the israel loebby, or a guy who says i'm sorry. i am a decorated vietnam veteran and i would be tremendous secretary of defense. who is he? >> let me speak to the chuck hagel i knew. this guy served on the ground in vietnam. earned two purple hearts while he was there. that's the prism to which he sees making policy for the united states government. the point of view someone on the ground, in the mud, during the fighting and the dying and so many of those people have carried the burden for the last ten plus years in the united states of america as we've been in this endless cycle of war. those are the people who chuck hagel will orient himself to wars and standing up for. with regard specifically to the point on israel, you know, i have been astounded at the way senator hagel's record has been dis
. >> who is the real chuck hagel? a guy who at one point 14 years ago said a diplomat was aggressively gay and that made him unfit to be ambassador to luxembourg. the guy who talked about the jewish lobby and he really meant the israel loebby, or a guy who says i'm sorry. i am a decorated vietnam veteran and i would be tremendous secretary of defense. who is he? >> let me speak to the chuck hagel i knew. this guy served on the ground in vietnam. earned two purple hearts while he was...
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the choice is chuck hagel of nebraska. the announcement is coming today and the nomination process could get ugly. because republican leaders are questioning haggle's support of israel and unwillingness to get behind sanctions of iran. lindsay graham sounding the battle cry on cnn "state of the union." >> this is an in your face nomination by the president to all of us supportive of israel. i don't know what his management experience is regarding the pentagon. little, if any, so i think it's an incredibly controversial choice, and looks like the second term of barack obama is going to be an in-your-face term. >> jill dougherty live from washington. opposition from the right and left on a number of different issues. what's the top problems that people have with chuck hagel? >> you take the republicans who don't consider him a republican anymore, they would point to israel. say he's not a friend of israel. one of the reasons they say that, they point to iran, and haggle has questioned the efficacy of unilateral, u.s. sanctio
the choice is chuck hagel of nebraska. the announcement is coming today and the nomination process could get ugly. because republican leaders are questioning haggle's support of israel and unwillingness to get behind sanctions of iran. lindsay graham sounding the battle cry on cnn "state of the union." >> this is an in your face nomination by the president to all of us supportive of israel. i don't know what his management experience is regarding the pentagon. little, if any, so...
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he opposed the war longer than chuck hagel. >> chuck hagel did. same thing with one of the few republican senators. after the war started he began to rethink his view of the world. it's not only about iran. the other thing is that obama wants someone to bring the defense department back into focus. >> is this a smaller foreign policy? >> i think it is. you can completely separate it, wall it off from all considerations about the national debt. chuck hagel doesn't see it that way. he's a lot like dwight eisenhower who drove the defense budget down quite dramatically. he believed america's real power was its fiscal health. >> a lot of fire around hagel has to do with israel and the lack of support for israel. let's listen to what john cornyn said. >> comments with the so-called jewish lobby, which seems to denigrate the efforts of pro-israel individuals, myself included, who view that relationship as a special relationship one that is important to our national security and stability in the region. >> is this a real problem for hagel? >> this is real
he opposed the war longer than chuck hagel. >> chuck hagel did. same thing with one of the few republican senators. after the war started he began to rethink his view of the world. it's not only about iran. the other thing is that obama wants someone to bring the defense department back into focus. >> is this a smaller foreign policy? >> i think it is. you can completely separate it, wall it off from all considerations about the national debt. chuck hagel doesn't see it that...
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he tapped former republican senator chuck hagel for defense secretary. and anti-terrorism chief john brennan for cia director. controversy surrounds hagel because of opposition to troop surges in iraq and afghanistan, and some of his positions on israel. the president cited one main reason for both of his picks. >> my number one criteria in making these decisions was simple, who is going to do the best job in securing america? these two leaders have dedicated their lives to protecting our country. i'm confident they will do an outstanding job. i urge the senate to confirm them as soon as possible so we can keep our nation secure and the american people safe. >> now, there's something to be said for how a president picks cabinet nominees, cabinet secretaries, in his second term. let's bring in author and presidential historian, douglas brinkley, professor of history, fellow at rice university and author of a thousand books, last i checked. thank you for being with us. as you just heard, the president wanted to be seen as tough, particularly as tough on te
he tapped former republican senator chuck hagel for defense secretary. and anti-terrorism chief john brennan for cia director. controversy surrounds hagel because of opposition to troop surges in iraq and afghanistan, and some of his positions on israel. the president cited one main reason for both of his picks. >> my number one criteria in making these decisions was simple, who is going to do the best job in securing america? these two leaders have dedicated their lives to protecting our...
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chuck hagel and i are friends. i appreciate and honor his service in the vietnam conflict and we have worked together on a number of issues. i have noticed over the years that our views on the united states of america and what we should be doing in the world has diverged rather dramatically, and i guess the best example of that is the surge in iraq. we both knew that we were losing the war in iraq. lindsey graham and i and joe lieberman and others knew we needed a surge and the president somewhat reluctantly adapted the surge and it succeeded. now, what the president did afterwards is another discussion. but chuck hagel, at the time, made the rather unusual statement, at least to me, and said that the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam, and then, somewhat, in his statement if the foreign relations committee, compared it to the invasion of cambodia. now, that, to me is -- and i've never heard him contradict that statement or change his position about the surge. we lost over 2,000 you
chuck hagel and i are friends. i appreciate and honor his service in the vietnam conflict and we have worked together on a number of issues. i have noticed over the years that our views on the united states of america and what we should be doing in the world has diverged rather dramatically, and i guess the best example of that is the surge in iraq. we both knew that we were losing the war in iraq. lindsey graham and i and joe lieberman and others knew we needed a surge and the president...
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in a week where the question has been questioned for nominating chuck hagel for defense secretary, a man who was against the surge in afghanistan is four more defense cuts and written about avoiding wars, would it help the president to take a stronger stance on this? >> no. at the end of the day, you go through your evaluations. i talked to a three-star general that served in afghanistan that made it perfectly clear that these are delicate situations. you are still dealing with a country where we are trying to get the security forces up to bar. it could cost us about $30 billion a year. the president has to make an economic decision as well. if panetta is on his way out is saying, i want it done in weeks and the president is simply saying, i am going to take a few more months, i say, take your time, because you are dealing with the lives of american troops. >> that's a fair point. the clock is ticking. the united states says it is going to withdraw in 2014. it is not just delay on troop numbers that had us asking questions today. today, the question gave a reason for the delay. he sa
in a week where the question has been questioned for nominating chuck hagel for defense secretary, a man who was against the surge in afghanistan is four more defense cuts and written about avoiding wars, would it help the president to take a stronger stance on this? >> no. at the end of the day, you go through your evaluations. i talked to a three-star general that served in afghanistan that made it perfectly clear that these are delicate situations. you are still dealing with a country...
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and in a week where the president has been questioned for nominated chuck hagel for defense secretary, would it have helped the president to take a stronger stance on this issue today? either telling the country the troop count or being open of the fact of, hey, look, we're not on the schedule to announce this and telling the public why. >> no, at the end of the day, you go through your evaluations. i talked to a three-star general who served in afghanistan who made it perfectly clear that these are delicate situations, you're still dealing with a country where we're trying to get the security forces up to par. you also don't just want to just make some kind of announcement without thinking it through. i talked to a senior administration official who said to lead 10,000 troops in afghanistan could cost us $30 billion a year. the president also has to make an economic decision, as well. so, look, if panetta is saying i want it done in weeks and the president is simply saying i'm going to take a few more months, i say take your time because you're dealing with the lives of american troo
and in a week where the president has been questioned for nominated chuck hagel for defense secretary, would it have helped the president to take a stronger stance on this issue today? either telling the country the troop count or being open of the fact of, hey, look, we're not on the schedule to announce this and telling the public why. >> no, at the end of the day, you go through your evaluations. i talked to a three-star general who served in afghanistan who made it perfectly clear...
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for chuck hagel, no. i believe in the end jack lew will get confirmed. but i'll tell you this, the reason the white house put off the announcement of jack lew until tomorrow is because of the fiscal cliff. they didn't want it to get involved in the negotiations for the fiscal cliff. they felt that they already had a fight on their hands. they didn't want to add any fuel to the fire on that, which is why they've held off of the nomination until this week. they do expect him to get confirmed and so do i. >> john kerry, secretary of state. we've got a lot of white males, shall we say, chuck hagel, we have pictures up there. jack lew, eric holder is over at the justice department. he's not a white male. he's an african-american. but no women. >> men. men. >> i want to put up another picture of the seen yr staff, if you will. there you you he sue the staff. there's been mur muring that there's not enough women part of this white house, the inner circle. what are folks saying about that? >> the visual you just showed with the four cabinet members being men, th
for chuck hagel, no. i believe in the end jack lew will get confirmed. but i'll tell you this, the reason the white house put off the announcement of jack lew until tomorrow is because of the fiscal cliff. they didn't want it to get involved in the negotiations for the fiscal cliff. they felt that they already had a fight on their hands. they didn't want to add any fuel to the fire on that, which is why they've held off of the nomination until this week. they do expect him to get confirmed and...
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hagel and john brennan over to the defense department and cia. so now, it is a question of how much time they have, but a lot of people will be watching, does harry reid make that time? >> some states are taking this one step further, proposing state laws that would make it criminal for a doctor like yourself to ask a patient. you could lose your medical license for asking, is that correct? >> yeah, it was even more than that in the original version of the bill down in florida, for example. and there are seven other states like this. the original version is that you could impose jail time for simply asking. so a physician asking a patient about guns could land them in jail, according to the original version. there was a scaled back version that was subsequently put forward, that you could still lose your medical license, you could get financial penalties. that was subsequently overturned by a federal judge, but it's being appealed. so, yes, it could be even a step further in some of these states, even a step further than what's in the affordable
hagel and john brennan over to the defense department and cia. so now, it is a question of how much time they have, but a lot of people will be watching, does harry reid make that time? >> some states are taking this one step further, proposing state laws that would make it criminal for a doctor like yourself to ask a patient. you could lose your medical license for asking, is that correct? >> yeah, it was even more than that in the original version of the bill down in florida, for...
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do we have a very solid concept of how these three new faces, chuck hagel, john kerry, and john brennan, you know, ashow do they feel about walking away from afghanistan? we talked about it before and it didn't go so well. >> reporter: that's correct. we'll have to what it and see the positions these new if, in fact, they do get confirmed how they will view this transition. our understanding is when you look at the defense department and someone like mr. hagel would most likely be leaning towards what we're seeing with the president, more aggressive in drawdown -- drawing down the troops in afghanistan. you know, we have to look back to the president during both of his campaigns made the promise of ending the war, first of all, in the first campaign in iraq, and drawing down the troops in the war -- winding down the war in afghanistan. in his second campaign he focused on that again, winding down the war in afghanistan, so this is in many ways the president delivering on that promise. but as we've been talking about, how quickly it should happen, how aggressive it should be is a big iss
do we have a very solid concept of how these three new faces, chuck hagel, john kerry, and john brennan, you know, ashow do they feel about walking away from afghanistan? we talked about it before and it didn't go so well. >> reporter: that's correct. we'll have to what it and see the positions these new if, in fact, they do get confirmed how they will view this transition. our understanding is when you look at the defense department and someone like mr. hagel would most likely be leaning...
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>> maybe he likes chuck hagel and thinks he will do the job well. >> it's a plausible explanation. few seconds left, political journalists lost a titan last night, richard kramer, wrote "what it takes" passed away, also wrote a number of other great books and "rolling stone" magazine. he loved political politics and journalism and there's no one like him. >> we appreciate you guys joining thus morning. >> hau fthank you for having us. >> i was on vacation this last weekend. i know you love having me and glad you got to see me this morning. i was in colorado this past weekend and i decided i needed to have a backflip competition on a trampoline, this was going to be great and somebody from the crowd as i'm strapping into this bungy cord says "we're sending this video to soledad." >> please do, if it's terrible we're going to run it. >> i got the backflip. >> tomorrow on "starting point," get your angel wings ready, victoria's secret cameron russell will be here. john berman, ooh! for the first time, "i'm interested." >> we had ben cardin today. >> c cnn newsroom" with carol costello
>> maybe he likes chuck hagel and thinks he will do the job well. >> it's a plausible explanation. few seconds left, political journalists lost a titan last night, richard kramer, wrote "what it takes" passed away, also wrote a number of other great books and "rolling stone" magazine. he loved political politics and journalism and there's no one like him. >> we appreciate you guys joining thus morning. >> hau fthank you for having us. >> i was...
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. >> the white house is gearing up for a fight with republicans over chuck hagel, president obama's pick for secretary of defense. as well as the fight over that other thing, everything. >> "early start" continues right now. >>> inside the accused aurora shooter's alleged plot. the explosive trap police say he set as a diversion. >>> and too close for comfort. a great white shark seen lurking just off a florida beach. >>> and responding to the backlash. brent musburger's bosses apologizing for his on air comments about a football star's beauty queen girlfriend. good morning and welcome to early start. >> glad you're beauty queen gir. >> i'm john berman. >> i'm zoraida sambolin. we begin with the white house, and the national rifle observation. the nra confirming it will meet with vice president biden. but they don't sound ready to actively participate. putting out a statement that reads, "we are seconding a rep to hear what they have to say." that drew this response from the president's spokesman, jay carney. >> we look forward to hearing from a variety of organizations, and civic groups
. >> the white house is gearing up for a fight with republicans over chuck hagel, president obama's pick for secretary of defense. as well as the fight over that other thing, everything. >> "early start" continues right now. >>> inside the accused aurora shooter's alleged plot. the explosive trap police say he set as a diversion. >>> and too close for comfort. a great white shark seen lurking just off a florida beach. >>> and responding to the...
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then of course you have chuck hagel. there is controversy on both the left and the right, rather right and the left over that nomination. so this president, it seems like he's pushing the envelope with these nominees. and your producers also pointed out no women. >> been called the band of brothers, a couple of articles have described it that way. maria, what's your take? >> well, i'm not worried about the "controversial nature" of these appointees. i think they will get through. and the white house feels pretty confident that they will get through. but i absolutely agree that the next set of nominees and appointees need to look a lot more like this panel, randi. and -- and i am sure, i am actually sure that it will because clearly i don't know if it was just, you know, the timing of the rollout. let's remember that susan rice was considered for secretary of state. so i don't think we'd be having this conversation if she hadn't run into trouble. certainly, diversity has always been a priority for this president. and his
then of course you have chuck hagel. there is controversy on both the left and the right, rather right and the left over that nomination. so this president, it seems like he's pushing the envelope with these nominees. and your producers also pointed out no women. >> been called the band of brothers, a couple of articles have described it that way. maria, what's your take? >> well, i'm not worried about the "controversial nature" of these appointees. i think they will get...
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hagel opposed a nominee that was going to serve in the country of luxembourg as an ambassador, the size of a table, and he opposed him for being aggressively gay and had some tough anti-gay statements to make at the time. yes he apologized but apologized two weeks ago when his name was already being considered for secretary of defense, and yet it's okay to go after the pastor, but it's not okay to go after the nominee for secretary of defense, who is going to be making big and small decisions on a daily basis as we implement the complete repeal of don't ask, don't tell. that i think is inconsistent and verging on hypocriticahypocriti. >> just to be clear giglio pulled out on his own. president obama didn't change his mind and say get out. >> ana brings up a good point. we have to include people's evolving views on this. again i go back to what the reverend said 15 or 20 years ago, he has not disavowed. hagel has absolute disavowed what he said, and a lot of gay rights groups have taken him -- >> two weeks ago, maria, a very convenient evolution. >> that's fine. >> thank you both. thank
hagel opposed a nominee that was going to serve in the country of luxembourg as an ambassador, the size of a table, and he opposed him for being aggressively gay and had some tough anti-gay statements to make at the time. yes he apologized but apologized two weeks ago when his name was already being considered for secretary of defense, and yet it's okay to go after the pastor, but it's not okay to go after the nominee for secretary of defense, who is going to be making big and small decisions...
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and also, as you know, with president obama appointing or picking former senator chuck hagel to be his next secretary of the defense, it's widely speculated that a more aggressive drawdown is something that hagel may favor as well. but it's sort of unclear, wolf, what it means for the final number of u.s. troops that will remain in afghanistan. we know that white house officials are talking about somewhere between 0 and 9,000 troops but one of the things that was really interesting, listening to this press conference today. >> we didn't hear the presidents talk about there being no u.s. troops. in fact, the finding of common ground on immunity for u.s. troops and afghan soldiers and who will be in control of overseeing them seem to indicate that they have found some common ground on key sticking points and the take away there is likely there are going to be u.s. troops in afghanistan beyond 2014. >> the only thing they have to work out is how many. it looks like you're right. thanks very much, brianna, for that. >>> the date is now set for president obama's state of the union address.
and also, as you know, with president obama appointing or picking former senator chuck hagel to be his next secretary of the defense, it's widely speculated that a more aggressive drawdown is something that hagel may favor as well. but it's sort of unclear, wolf, what it means for the final number of u.s. troops that will remain in afghanistan. we know that white house officials are talking about somewhere between 0 and 9,000 troops but one of the things that was really interesting, listening...